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Food for Thought. . .

While I have no right to claim the full title of "child free" my 8 year old daughter has precluded that. I have committed myself to continuing the rest of my days without breeding any more. I went so far as getting my vasectomy done and am only interested in being in any type of a relationship with someone who is as serious about the child free thing as I am. . .

call me an aspiring D.I.N.K.

Hoever, reading about things like this makes me almost reconsider.

With their long term plan including, outbreeding the liberals, and "filling gods quiver with more christian soldiers" and projectiosn that if only 8 million americans had 6+ kids each, that in 100 years we could have 500 Million Soldiers of the Christian Right, perhaps the childfree lifestyle is a good way to keep our way of thinking out of the gene pool. . .

Rev

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xterminal
Jan. 11th, 2007 07:33 pm (UTC)
There's a minor flaw in their logic.

if only 8 million americans had 6+ kids each, that in 100 years we could have 500 Million Soldiers of the Christian Right

If 8 million of today's psychotic neocons (and let's just put aside for the moment the stretch that there are wight million neocons psychotic enough to get behind this) had six kids each, that would give us, assuming four million pairs of psychotic neocons, twenty-four million kids as breeding stock in the next generation. Assuming no legality issues are going to be pushed here, according to their logic, that will mean twelve million pairs of psychoticon breeding stock available in, roughly, twenty years. Progress as necessary: in forty years, thirty-six million pairs. Sixty years, 108 million pairs. Eighty years, 324 million pairs, which, yes, means that a century from the start of this experiment, we'd have six hundred forty-eight million psychoticons ready to take over the world. (Where would we put them?)

BUT.

There are certain countries dominated by certain other religious groups who are well-known for breeding like rabbits. A six-child family in some of those countries would be considered small. So why is it that the psychotic Pakistani Muslims, for example, haven't taken over the world? (Not that they ain't gonna try, since India's gonna get nuked any day now.)

Two simple reasons:
1. Passing religion down the bloodline may work all well and good for Jewish women, but in practice, while it's quite obvious that some psychoticons have psychoticon kids, I don't think they have a sufficiently smaller number of rebellious offspring than the rest of society. And if that's the case, they can count on-- maybe-- ten percent of those offspring in any given generation carrying on the plan. Since they're looking at a pyramid scheme, that's crippling.
2. What you said. It's a pretty well-known statistical fact these days that there's an inverse relationship between level of education and fecundity. In other words, the dumber you are, the more likely it is that you'll have a litter. Which means the psychoticons are going to end up shooting themselves in the foot (or the balls, as it were) with their attempts to (a) bend the educational system to their will or (b) put up their own alternative educational system (viz. Patrick Henry University, one of the scariest entities in America at present). If we make the not-so-illogical leap that the same things that keep the educated from having kids (not so much the childfree mindset, though there is that, but the obsessive focus on career) keep the pseudo-educated from having kids-- gotta keep as many psychoticons in office as possible, natch-- these folks simply ain't gonna have time for all that fucking. And, again, with the pyramid-scheme form of this plan... uh uh. Everyone's gotta have time for fucking.

Besides, eventually, someone's gonna start killing these pathetic fools...
subverseshun
Jan. 11th, 2007 07:50 pm (UTC)
I am sure that left values won't be wiped out despite all the last ditch efforts of the christian right. The whole idea of breeding to pass on your values is haphazard because you can't be sure what your kid will be like. Brainwashing can only go so far. For every kid that succums there will be a kid that hates being a christian solder and wants to leave the fold.

In fact, it might completely backfire and start a weird rebellion against the restrictive values. Christian soldiers putting on the appearence of the perfect family, with worries about how to feed six plus mouths on one paycheck with the woman at home-schooling them, cooking, cleaning the house and single handedly trying to take care of a 6+ children all by herself. . . . I am sure their will be a certian level of tension in some households, the need to explode. Much like the hippie movement where many of the hippies lived with the 1950s "Leave it to Beaver" mantality, it is highly unlikely that many of the hippies were raised with "free love" values.

What is interesting is this movement started in 1989 (so their children are in their late teens) yet it is predicted that the new wave of voters in the next few years are more likely to vote democratic and are more open-minded about issues such as gay marriage.
squidb0i
Jan. 11th, 2007 09:29 pm (UTC)
I want the snippage too.
How bad was the recovery?
razorslave
Jan. 11th, 2007 09:39 pm (UTC)
Re: I want the snippage too.
not bad at all.

They prescribed me one valium to take an hour or so before the surgery.

they use a local and cut a small inscision in the scrotum, pull the vas defron out, snip it, and cauterize the ends.

It was uncomfortable, particularly as they were yanking on the vas defrons, I could feel it up in my gut.

They sent me home, with an ice pack, and I was a little tender the next day. I definately didnt jog home from it. . .

Was bating within 3 days, and the bit O was more intense, one month later, I was certified sterile (3 samples provided over a 3 week period that were checked for sperm cells and none found)

Only cost me $15. And I've never had more than a minorly fleeting regret regardig it.

Rev
audionymph
Jan. 12th, 2007 01:37 am (UTC)
Re: I want the snippage too.
$15????!!!!
razorslave
Jan. 12th, 2007 02:05 am (UTC)
Re: I want the snippage too.
Insurance Co-Pay

of course if I want to get it reversed. . . it's not covered. . .

Rev
audionymph
Jan. 12th, 2007 02:33 am (UTC)
Re: I want the snippage too.
I figured it had something to do with a co-pay. And hey, don't you know by now when you get something cheap there's no turning back? It sucks but it's true :-/
squidb0i
Jan. 12th, 2007 03:40 am (UTC)
Re: I want the snippage too.
Wait, how did it only cost you $15? Insurance?
I thought it was much much more.
razorslave
Jan. 12th, 2007 09:06 pm (UTC)
Re: I want the snippage too.
Insurance Co-pay. Most HMO's have Vasectomies covered. You should check yours. Then ask your Dr. Who will grill you about kids. You can lie and tell them you already have one, and are not interested in having another, and that will generally shut them up enough that they will do it without any further questions. . .

Rev
canisunfamiliar
Jan. 11th, 2007 11:02 pm (UTC)
I'm childfree and a woman. I know how much harder and riskier it is for a girl but I want to be sterilised cos I really don't like children and I wouldn't like to bring one into this world anyways. My first words to potential dates are "if you want to breed, don't bother." I have a whole raft of psychological and social reasons but I'm not going to bother writing an essay on my personal decision here.

As for those Christians, fundamentalists really scare me. If we are gonna end up overrun by those people I'm going to kill myself now. As someone already said though, not everyone who is raised a God-botherer will become one of the God Squad. If you ask me, having a child solely to replenish "God's Army" is a damned selfish reason and you can bet some of the kids that grow up against their parent's teachings will be disowned due to the beliefs that they are "going against God."
emokpdx
Jan. 15th, 2007 11:17 pm (UTC)
Goddamn, that made me shudder.

But anyone with half a mind can look at the majority of the breeders out there - not the ones that should have the strongest presence in our genetic pool.

*sigh*

It's a good thing I don't have any confidence that our world will even be livable in 100years. Yay for open arms to the apocalypse!
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